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Preteen Model Sites - Legitimate Agencies or Child Pornography?

Time to Crack Down

There are thousands of modeling agencies listed on the world wide web, but in many cases, they're nothing more than web pages offering pictures of scantily clothed young girls, wearing thongs, and placed in provocative and sexually suggestive poses. These sites advertise "100% No Nude" photos, yet, the pictures that are offered are sickening to anyone who has young daughters.

Of course, there are legitimate modeling agencies throughout the country, and it's best for one to seek them out locally prior to searching the net that promises to make stars of aspiring or established young models. Recently, a friend of a friend had engaged in a modeling and acting session and the web address had been given to my friend so she could view the her friend's progress. Everything appeared on the up-and-up and the session went well. There were several links on the page that had been viewed, and when one had selected, it opened a new site offering pictures of girls between the ages of 6 and 13 in very scantily attire.

My first thought was, "Where are the parents when these shoots are taking place?" Surely I thought, most of the parents of these girls didn't know the pictures were taken - I would allow no one to take those types of pictures of my daughter.

One of the problems one will encounter when searching the net for a legitimate modeling agency is not knowing what will open when clicking a link. Some pages offer several links which are placed on a page as banners. The pictures on MOST of these banners are disturbing in the way that they offer photos of teen or preteen girls in thongs or underwear in very provocative poses.

One suggestion when searching for a teen modeling agency is NOT selecting one that uses the words loli, lola, nymphet, hot, extreme, or anything that would suggest something distasteful.

I find it disgusting that there are so many sites that offer child pornography, and what's worse, they are easily accessible. I believe it is the search engines' duty to remove all supposed legitimate modeling agency listings if they offer suggestive poses of young children. Google's search engine posts a notice as such - In response to a legal request submitted to Google, we have removed 4 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read more about the request at ChillingEffects.org when certain results are questionable. Well, they are missing a whole lot of sites and I for one, would love to work from home to rid the web of these sick, demented people who, not only offer these provocative photos, but make a ton of money doing so.

The Bottom Line - Teens and preteens reclined on a bed, sitting in a chair, or bending over, camera shooting from the back, legs spread in a provocative pose... is this modeling or child pornography? I'm sorry, but I cannot see this as any type of decent modeling. My wife and I entered our son in a beauty contest some 20 years ago and most parents offered a portfolio of their children. Not one time did I observe a child, boy or girl in a provocative pose. These portfolios offered the viewers smiling faces of girls in frilly, bright colored dresses or sun suits; the boys, in jeans or slacks, sometimes shorts and shirts. So many of the modeling sites that offer pictures of young children today are disgusting, demeaning and cruel.

I for one would like to begin a campaign to petition the proper channels of the United States Government to close MOST child modeling sites down, and in cases where children are being asked to pose in provocative positions, there should minimally be fines levied against the webmasters. Government agencies use monies to pursue criminals involved in drug trafficking, prostitution rings, and illegal arms runners, why then, can't our children be protected from these predators? It does not take much effort to learn the names of the owners and webmasters of these sites.

It is an insult to anyone with a smidgen of common sense when these sites use the words,Non Nude, 100% legal, or Art in the description of their so called modeling sites. Offering a few 'eye candy' preview photos, then, if one is a bit demented, they can pay a sizable fee for a complete set of photos. I dare not imagine just how provocative or demeaning the photos in these available sets might be.

It's high time OUR government cracked down on child 'modeling' sites in the United States.



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Comments 158 comments

Mark Brown 5 years ago

I am totally agree with your thoughts and I also think that this the responsibility of parents and guardians to get the details about these agencies and sites befofe taking the services.

Roger Warren 5 years ago

I for one love these websites. I have a membership on two of them, "cutie" from art modeling studios and "liliana" also from art modeling studios. I highly recommend them. The photos are taken with professional lighting and are in high resolution. Yes they wear thongs, they have the body for it. As long as they are happy posing for the pictures, are well fed and educated, and have a generally happy life, there is nothing wrong with it. Remember, there are foreign cultures who don't see things the same way ours does and the internet is a global medium.

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paul kenyon 5 years ago from Olean, New York Hub Author

Hi Roger, would you mind posting the actual urls to these sites?

Mike Minor 5 years ago

I think it is up to the parents to insure there kids are not being exposed to any provocative poses. If we ban ever site on the internet then we might as well turn the computer off and throw it in the trash. As I do agree with you that we should protect our kids its up to the parents, that's were it has to start.

haha 4 years ago

stop wasting your time. these girls are probably getting paid well so who gives a crap.

Luke 4 years ago

I have seen many of these sites you talk about... Notice also most of them are Laced with happy toys to flip your computer into a haven of torjans and other goodies to crash your computer. Let's face it, if it is porn it's bug and it's watch and ready to be shut down by the Fed's(also probing to get your IP arrest you for being there). Agree? One of these links end up putting into a world of 1000's of others..Like going fishing with a worm and your in (excuse the term) Kiddie pool full of sharks.

I know, I was searching for a modeling agent , stumbled up on one of these, and took me all day to clean my computer.Because of some of the sites it shot me to... I trash the computer an got a new one.Wasn't taken any chances to what THEY uploaded to my computer. WISE to others.... If your going to play with kids( especailly my children...) you better make sure my gun is not loaded and pointed at you... Child porn is Child porn no matter how much you try to cover up the truth. Rodger.. you said..."there are foreign cultures who don't see things the same way ours does and the internet is a global medium" Don't think they see putting little kids on sex market or prostuting or subjecting them to that kind of exposure is healthy nor do they allow it. You said they get paid good, right? Well if I pay you good to jump off a mountian is that going to make it right?

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paul kenyon 4 years ago from Olean, New York Hub Author

Very well said, Luke. I became interested in these modeling sites after seeing a newscast of a young girl that was signed by her parents. Little did they know what would transpire after the first couple of shoots. At least one parent had enough gumption to go after the so called 'photographer' and modeling agency. There is no reason any child especially girls should pose in any sort of provocative style. Roger also stated, "They have the body for it." For what for christ's sakes? They have the bodies of children. I cannot accept anyone asking a child to pose in seductive poses. Children ages 6-12 posing in this manner is just not acceptable. I love how some of these sites call it "Art."

Okay...... 4 years ago

Sorry paul, I couldn't help but notice your comment previous about getting the url for the sites? Why do you want them, not just to later say how sick it is. Not to mention your last post saying how unacceptable it is to take pictures of children in seductive poses ages 6-12? Okay, so as long as they're over 12 years of age it's okay? I don't think so.....An adult is the only time it's okay in my opinion. I wouldn't want my 13 or 15 or 16 year old posing in something like that! Not well I'm still alive that's for sure. I think you might want to change your numbers from ages 0-17 that should not be put into those seductive poses.

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paul kenyon 4 years ago from Olean, New York Hub Author

Actually, it was supposed to read 6-22 not twelve. I thought one year above the minumum drinking age in most states was acceptable.

Bob 4 years ago

Hello Paul, I am interested in stopping this stuff called art, or even more ludricus, it being called professional modeling. What can actually be done to stop this trafficking of children? What have you found? A for Roger, deep shame on him for his perversion and defense of this trash.

OMG! 4 years ago

"It should have read 'date of conception to 991/2 years old'", get off it!

Sid 4 years ago

What a lot of you guys don't realize is that the little girls in these websites aren't your average looking girls. They have exceptional bodily attributes that resemble a mature womanly figure and beautiful doll-like faces. It is truly rare to find little girls with this perfect mix of features. Apparently, you all haven't seen it for yourself but with close-up pictures of their figures, your can hardly tell the difference between an adult and a little girls picture. It is this combination of mature and childlike features that make them so appealing, and a truly rare and precious gem.

John 4 years ago

Personally, I find it sickening that you people keep overreacting to this kind of stuff. it's people like you that make it impossible for me to get stuff like nude beach photos, because god forbid, there could be a naked kid playing and splashing in the freaking water!

you know, being all adorable and KID LIKE, oh what a crime!

this is only so sickening to people who listen to the media hype BULLSH1T. And I should know, since I professionally catch pedophiles. 99.4% of them want videos of preteen kids.

Personally I myself only look at still photos to admire the grace and beauty and innocence, not looking for some way to rip it away from them.

This crack down crap is just an old magician's trick. one hand draws your attention to one thing, while another goes unnoticed. Political fodder. If you really want to protect children, monitor sites and programs like KaZaA. you would not believe the horrible amount of disgusting crap you can find with the right search term. and the amount of people sharing it is even more disturbing.

So, in short, to all who keep bitching about naked kids and suggestive poses, get your minds out of the gutter and focus on REAL problems. stop being nit-picker perfectionalists.

franki79 4 years ago

I"m with you on this!!! Great Hub

Franki

meme 4 years ago

these sites are so over the line. you have acceptable pictures that show the beaty of children (sally mann, jock sturges) then you have this crap

m. smith illinois 4 years ago

These sites should be banned... I wouldnt want my daughter poding like that... I dont think many of them are illegal. but distateful for sure.

Tom 4 years ago

I really don't care about a kid being naked in a natural context i.e. Nudist or whatever, but Art Modeling Studios' models clearly pose sexually and the US law says no lascivious poses! Why is this not illegal already?

Child nudism is fine AS LONG AS it is NOT in a sexual context like this is! If the girls were 18+, they would probably be on page 3 of The Sun or in FHM!

ghimmhala 4 years ago

This shit is sick! it needs to be ripped off the internet

dd 4 years ago

is doch geil du missgeburt

silla der killa 4 years ago

alta da könnt ich so fett abwichsen alta son richtig richtig enges arschloch...mmmm passt ma auf das ich nich eure kinder und mütter fick ihr fehlgestalten ich sag nur geil kindapornos alta

from Holland 4 years ago

I love the preteen model sites. It`s art, and they are born for it. Paul Kenyon, Take a life!

from Holland 4 years ago

Or in better English: Get a live!

annoyed 4 years ago

the sickest people of all are those deeming to tell everyone else what or isnt something and trying to force everyone else to go along with them. The Chirstian nuts in the US think they determine the morals for the world. there so sexually repressed its almost funny if it wasnt so scary that they try to force the world to bend to there will.

warrll0352 4 years ago

I hear ya dude, i honestly can't stand how people like kids like that, i mean, unfortunately I can see how we can't shut down a lot of the modeling sites because they don't show kids in explicit behavior which is what child pornography is, but on the other hand there's no doubt in my mind that there are still a lot of child "modeling" sites that are pornographic but are looked over. My personal opinion, if the FBI was able to form a group of like 4-5 ingenious hackers and fund them to hunt and shut down child porn sites and track the IP addresses of people that download images, that I think would get a lot more of those sites shut down and prevent more pedophiles from creating those sites as well as get more of those pervs off the streets.

jamie l 4 years ago

hi from canada

ive bein reading about these models in the news and did some looking around to see if this stuff is actually legal i was SHOCKED THIS STUFF IS LEGAL and i looked at interpol law and its legal through some art loop hole. and being an art lover my self it isnt art taking pictures of innocent young girls with a camera, especally if your goal is to sell this photos with girls in NOT age apropriate clothing how can we get this kind of stuff banned because if so i am compelled to do some thing there arent any petitions or anything ! how can i help to end this b.s!

i will be check back here because this isnt right and all you people who think it is your SICK

if was a law maker all you pedofiles hiding behind art would be in jail you give art a bad name and modeling for that matter this shit is unnatural

ask any one with MORALS AND CARE ABOUT KIDS

just blue 4 years ago

These sights aresexually suggestive, they are suggesting that men or women should get arrousal from viewing small CHILDREN in sexual poses. Kids are cute, adorable, pretty but in no way be looked at sexually. I am a mother and for heavens sake if anyone took pictures like these of my children before my children are 18 years old I dont know what I would do. CHILDREN are easily influenced and im sure for these pictures either not aware or only 2% slightly aware of what they are doing. The sad reality is the men who view these pictures have that daddy syndrome not where they want to be daddys but where looking at these young girls they feel powerfull and superior in a sence like a daddy. These pages are discusting and to the guy, Roger -- you need help buddy these girls have the body for it? What does that mean do you want to sleep with little girls too?/ Get some help. Seriously!

Fuji 4 years ago

Child porn is sick people that do it or watch it should be tortured and left to die a slow painful death

NC 4 years ago

These "teen modeling" sites are sick! It is child porn! All these sites did was found a loop hole in the Chapter 18 law and jumped through it. I don't know how anyone can call these sites legitimate. Myself as a parent would never allow my child to model like this. For everyone that enjoys these type of sites should seek help.

steve 4 years ago

what are u talking about.its great to see these kids in skimpy clothes.especialy the close up thong shots yum yum

NC2 4 years ago

I am 15 and it is truly sick what the internet is doing to both young and older men alike. Brainwashing them into thinking that porn is okay and that these are "just pictures" if I took pictures of a murder they would be pulled off the internet but murder is less of a crime than forcing an under-aged child to pose for sexual pictures. To all of you who agree with me I hope one day people wake up. To all those who visit these sites and think that this is okay then I hope when you have a daughter she ends up on these sites you look at. Then maybe you'll see how corrupt and sick these sites are. And @Annoyed, Im annoyed that you think Christians are trying to take over the world. I am a Christian and I think you're just scared because deep down you know what you have seen is wrong. I have never been on these sites but I dont need to "visit" to know that they are seriously messed up.

TheJudge 4 years ago

In the picture the girl lifts up her dress or she is slipping her top off her shoulder, teasing that it will come off all the way. She pulls her panties down a bit, with another hint that they are coming off. She sits and spreads her legs while lifing up her dress, and the coy smile on her face says, "I'm hot. Do you want me?" Her panties are thin and pulled tight so the shape of the vagina is seen. Is this a young woman? NO! This is a preteen. This is certainly not true child modeling, which should be limited to full clothing shots. These girls are coached how to smile, sit, act, flirt, etc. I cannot see how girls so young would be so sexually mature. It is not normal. This is nothing less than fodder for pedophiles and should be stopped. Plug the loopholes. As for those who say that these girls have the body for it, or that they have bodies like women, they should have their eyes and brains examined. These girls have no breasts. Duh! And if someone would penetrate their vaginas the girls would need medical treatment from tearing. How could these sickos want to have intercourse with such babies, anyway? Is that love? The closest to love would be narcissism--self love, very self-centered indeed.

Other 4 years ago

Its child porn- One search of no-nude and you have 1000 "modelling" sites. Its sick. children shouldn't be sexualised- even if it is "modelling". they have the age at 18 for a reason. Who wants to stare at an undeveloped person anyway?

next generation 4 years ago

You will see more of this stuff as the Adult pron industry will promote this more and more ! Look at the 18 teen nude sites and there provocative clothing to suggest they are much younger ! then your mind looks at this as Sexy you then feel the need to look at the real younger teen then realize its to late ... This is not a Choice older men and women make but a reality is this sick world that plays with fire - Everyone jumps when they see this type of thing on the rise but forget Adults promote this type of behavior daily in " Adult Porn " Sin is Sin no greater no lower and we must pray for healing or this will get worst in the next generation to come ...

next generation 4 years ago

Lets not forget how Liberals are promoting Sex to Kids young as 9 now ! Amazing if you ask me!

Mars 4 years ago

Its normal . I like kids porn.

newschool 4 years ago

ok so i think that we are all forgetting that teen boys watch porn... thats a fact... you can sit here and talk about pedophiles all you want but at the end of the day i would say that 80% of people who are getting some sort of sexual experience from these sites are boys under the age of 18 who are sick of seeing naked people as old as thier parents... this sort of behavior surely will spark many different judgement and opinions... but i do not think its fair to condemn it as something that is sick or evil. they simply want to see kid their own age

mikel 3 years ago

Hi. I have a question. Is it a provocative and sexually suggestive pose, when young girls, for example in the age of 10 to 16 show their feet in short white ankle socks without shoes?

TheJudge 3 years ago

Where do I go to report a preteen modeling site which has crossed the line?

layla123 3 years ago

i hav a question i have a girl going in grade six and well she loves wearing skinny jeans,and short shorts...should i alow it?

TheJudge 3 years ago

Layla, ask yourself this--is your daughter dressing provocatively? Why does she want to dress this way? Is it innocent to her or is she sexually toying with the boys for attention? Schools have dress codes which do not allow certain parts of the body to be exposed. If she stays within the school dress code then she will probably be all right.

Aud 3 years ago

I couldn't agree with you more Paul. It's just so sad that sites like that are legal. Oh and as for people who are saying that as long as they are happy and being paid everythings ok. UM NO, it's not ok. They're CHILDREN they don't know that sick people are going online to view their pictures. They think they're just having fun posing, and are just manipulated into what they do. They might not be child pornography, but it is sure CLOSE, and still does not make it any less degrading.

seven 3 years ago

these sites will never be banned, it's a slow process of corruption.

shutdown 3 years ago

shut down all sites like this

anonymous 3 years ago

Listen to yourselves!

Some of you need to just relax! I love how you "parents" are going on and on about "not my kid until she's 18!" Like, as soon as your daughter is 18 you'll be totally cool with her posing naked! Somehow, I doubt that.

Everyone wants to blame somebody else. The simple fact is that clothed photographs of children are NOT pornography. And just so we're all clear, the term pedophile refers to those aroused by prepubescent children. Teenagers that are sexually mature are beyond the scope of pedophilia - there's a different term for it. Regardless of your opinions, you must admit there is a significant difference between lusting after a 6 year old and a 16 year old. That, by the way, is a legal age of sexual consent in many of the united States. Check wikipedia for "age of consent."

As a final thought, let's examine a possibility. One of you suggested that the models don't know that people will ultimately be looking at their "fun" pictures for illicit purposes. So what? They're having fun and not being harmed or mistreated. Would you rather those interested in this material look it up on these modeling sites where girls were having fun, or do you prefer they go out and find the really bad stuff where girls are terribly hurt against their will - or worse, they go out and find the girls themselves?

This type of behavior is going to occur. Period. The question you have to ask yourself is what is the most kid-friendly way people can behave this way?

Live and let live. I don't condone the abuse of children OR adults, but one must consider all the angles and realize that not everyone is you. There are differences, and accepting these differences is the key to living a happy life. You don't have to like it, or agree with it, just accept that there is nothing you can do about it.

Ban it, make it illegal, throw people in jail, whatever. It's NOT going to stop it. THAT is the truth.

Gary 3 years ago

I get off looking at their galleries. These girls are not your average looking girls, they are extremely graceful and filled out in the right places. ; )

Long live child pinup models.

Frank 3 years ago

Great! Well spoken. I've seem those sites and you're right, I winder how sick the paid photos are.

Sssqwww 3 years ago

I came across these sites when I was researching child abuse.. My girlfriend was abused as a child so I wanted to learn about it and understand her.. Here is a question.. I'm 17.. My gf is 26 we have a sexual relationship, which here in the UK is legal, I have rude pics of her from now and when she was 15, id get fucked if the Feds saw the pics but I'm allowed to have sex with her but not have her photos.. So wud u class me as weird or normal for finding 14 + girls attractive? Girls any younger is a no no.. I looked at one of these sites and stared for 5 mins straight.. I felt sick,. It's wrong. Anyone knows these are not appropriate..

Even if they are fully clothed, why wud men wanna look at that? And I saw one pic of a girl around 7 with her legs wide open wearing a thong.. I felt bad. And guilty but it wasn't for my pleasure more of a WTF are you serious kinda thing.. WTF you pedos shud burn in he'll.. It's not art. It's porn. Child porn. End of

Sssqwww 3 years ago

I came across these sites when I was researching child abuse.. My girlfriend was abused as a child so I wanted to learn about it and understand her.. Here is a question.. I'm 17.. My gf is 26 we have a sexual relationship, which here in the UK is legal, I have rude pics of her from now and when she was 15, id get fucked if the Feds saw the pics but I'm allowed to have sex with her but not have her photos.. So wud u class me as weird or normal for finding 14 + girls attractive? Girls any younger is a no no.. I looked at one of these sites and stared for 5 mins straight.. I felt sick,. It's wrong. Anyone knows these are not appropriate..

Even if they are fully clothed, why wud men wanna look at that? And I saw one pic of a girl around 7 with her legs wide open wearing a thong.. I felt bad. And guilty but it wasn't for my pleasure more of a WTF are you serious kinda thing.. WTF you pedos shud burn in he'll.. It's not art. It's porn. Child porn. End of

Sssqwww 3 years ago

My girlfriend is 16 sorry . My bad. *************

CyboHmoob 3 years ago

In Asian countries you are betrothed and allowed to marry as young as 8. Both are encouraged to have sex at about the age of 10 by parents of both sides.

Now America needs to go and lecture those country:)

You see how different cultures are? So should America be the judge of all decisions? Peace.

jayson 3 years ago

well I think the usa is one sided on most factors and that they are not the police of the world. Im just saying be open most talent starts when your young look at all yours stars to day even oprah now she is a millionair. If your teen wants to show them selves so be it who cares its their life they are not nude and they are going to do what they want any way when 18 but it will be worst because you held them back so who did not rebell at 18

V. 3 years ago

Here’s what the brain can do. It can define what is healthy and what is positive. It can set parameters and make excuses. It can confuse complicated issues and make things that are abuses and exploitations seem healthy and beyond change. A moral perspective can be developed and then distorted or completely challenged by reason. The philosophy of the information age is an amalgam of myriad perspectives. It has allowed for everyone to fulfill a personal illusion of power and rational authority. Would you let any stranger into your house and play with your children? Why then do you trust the strangers on television and the internet in their influence?

These modeling sites are exploitative of the natural sexuality of children (mostly females) for profit. They are often linked to child pornography and sometimes sex slavery. But if the child and their parent are destitute and the child is attractive enough to be exploited (usually for the attraction of North American males), and if the child is not physically hurt, than one can make the excuse that the exploitation is socially acceptable and that people who find it objectionable are deluded and sexually repressed.

Many people have a difficult time with accepting the sexuality of children, as well as identifying the hypocrisy of child nudity and erotica being legal while “lolita” sites are shut down. There is some naiveté expressed in the knee-jerk condemnation of child erotica. But anytime a developing brain is manipulated into a real or simulated scenario involving complicated themes (sexual or otherwise) by adults, exploitation is occurring. See Dick and Jane watch actual videos made of women being stripped and humiliated by the men who would inevitably rape and murder them on YouTube. See Dick and Jane look at pictures of pornographic sex acts on Wikipedia. Assume the children in movies are capable of consenting to simulated sexual and violent acts even as people are prosecuted for molesting teenagers. Assume that there is not exploitation behind the cute singing and dancing of children on television.

Humans are animals at our core. And we are biologically steeped in violence and egotism, from childhood on. I think there is a predatory reality behind much of the demand for (again mostly female) child modeling. And it is foolish to assume that because a child is smiling in a picture that no harm is occurring in his/her psychology. Such things as erotic child modeling are understandably provocative as they touch on sensitive social issues. It is not intelligent or insightful to chastise people for being upset by behavior that challenges basic moral assumptions. And if one takes the philosophical road of “no harm done” or the more nihilistic “to each his own” then one is effectively either arguing without an understanding of variables beyond the obvious, or from an amoral position that has no social or civil relevance.

A healthy species would not allow base desire and profit to distort reason so that absolute freedom of expression and free information (reliant on hypothetical parental responsibilities) are protected above the development of children. But healthy can be defined to contradict any argument if accidental existence is accepted as a universal rule. And by my definition of the word, we are not a ‘healthy’ species at all.

standforsomething 3 years ago

I came across a so called "non nude" child modeling site while surfing for adult content recently, and immediately became concerned. You are right, these sites are not "modeling" sites by any means. They are definitely inappropriate, clothed or not. Seeing this was somewhat of a wake up call as to the kind of sick people who exist in society. I reported the website to several child protection agencies, hopefull that they'll be able to shut them down. But the problem is, there are SO MANY other ones that link off it, and apparently, these sites are LEGAL. What the hell?? How has congress allowed this to happen? I also read that there was a law introduced to congress called "April's Law" which would have put an end to these sites, yet it failed to pass into law because lawmakers were concerned it would "violate the 1st ammendment." Really?? Come on people!!

Alex Reznitchenko 3 years ago

all crap! i donot understad what wrong in posing nude for young girls. i bet these girls are from russia or poor country like ukrain. it is a big deal in america, but not where i am from.

kevin 3 years ago

i dont see what is wrong.i am a part time pedo,always looking at little girls BUT NEVER HAVE OR WILL TOUCH ONE.i love these sites,i used to be a marine,a police officer and now work for the bbc.that is why i am a p/t pedo.dont have time to be full time.these sites do me,quick go in the toilet while looking which means my feelings then stop me from doing it to children.

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paul kenyon 3 years ago from Olean, New York Hub Author

It's late, and I haven't really digested the last two comments. I'll respond at a later time, but I approved them for others to read.... wow.

Nudity is not Porn 3 years ago

It's important to remember that nudity is not sexuality, and porn can exist without nudity.

There are sites that promote photos of clothed kids (usually "pre teen" and younger), with a (usually veiled) intent of turning viewers on. Those should be illegal, and shut down, although proving intent can be tricky.

There are other sites, however, usually featuring actual teens who are aware of what they're doing, and almost always have parent permission and involvement, that do not include any sexual images and do not have the intent to turn people on. Some of these have some nudity as well.

But nudity is not sexuality. Just because a teen is nude does not make it porn. However, a fully clothed teen simulating masturbation IS porn. A photo of a teen on the beach, fully clohted, with the tag line "Check out her tight ass and tits" would also be child porn. Not because of the photo, but because of the way the photo is presented.

Ultimately it's not a black and white situation. One would need to look at the intent of the website, the way it's presented.

The laws of the U.S. fully allow naked photos of kids to be taken and sold, even if the genitals are fully visible.

The line is crossed when the photos are taken with the intent to make it all about sexuality or about the genitals.

So there you go.

meese1960 3 years ago

I don't where to begin...

There is nothing wrong with teenaged minors posing in sexy, suggestive photos. They've gone through puberty. They're sexual beings. They have a right to be involved in situations that are somewhat more grown up. They shouldn't be able to do what adults do but they're not 5 year olds!

I'm sick and tired of having to worry about being busted for having a picture of a topless 16 year old when in two short years she could be doing any consensual sexual act known to man and no one would care. It's disgusting this kind of hypocrisy.

It's perfectly normal to be sexually attracted to teen girls and it's ok to gratify oneself with their images as long as the risque factor is in keeping with the girls age. It's irrelevant what I think inside my head and it's irrelevant whether you happen to like it or not. It's not your business.

Having said that I also dislike the modeling sites that feature prepubescent children in adult clothing, risque poses, or worse. These children are truly being sexualized and exploited and that's wrong. Sites that feature children in this manner should be shut down.

You people who look down on child modeling sites you should realize that there is a wide variety and they"re not all the same. Some are much more exploitative than others. You should worry about the worst ones and shut up about non nude sexy teen ones.

William 3 years ago

Ive had a problem with sites and normal pornography.

I was traced by a certain group who are essentially out to prevent people.

What has been done to me was an abuse of every civil right I can think of and a massive abuse. Yet in the minds of those who did it their actions are righteous. I will never be able to prove anything.

I sought help from professionals only for them to do to me what they did, I was honest with them. Never come forward keep it a secret, never act out, the consequences to all involved are far to great.

Jack 3 years ago

I cant believe that there are so many immature and childish people commenting on this about how "bad" it is. your dirty minds make this stuff perverted this is true art keep your perversions to your self. Any of you looked at the news recently war is breaking out all over the world kids starving in third world countries. get your heads out of your god dam ass and see the real problem.

gloria 3 years ago

my brother in-law downloaded some images from these sites onto my sister's computer. we called the police and she issued an order of protection. they have two children, including a sweet little girl. children are not safe with anyone who would be interested in looking at these kind of sites. period. whether you call it "art", "modeling" or "porn", these images are meant to be sexually provocative and, in doing so, they exploit children. i would never, ever trust my niece, or any child that i love and care for to be around someone who looks at these disgusting images. upon seeing these pics I immediately assumed they were illegal and was shocked to find out at they are actually legal. this is a twisted world, that’s for sure.

Disgusted 3 years ago

Anyone still looking for roger's links? (If u don't know what I talking about check the top of comment thread) I know how these sites work (Trying to bust em) and I found what he was talking about. Utterly gross, and the middle picture at the bottom of the first link is CENSORED! How dumb is the government?! Anyway here they are:

http://liliana.artmodeling-studios.com/

http://cutie.artmodeling-studios.com/

mike 3 years ago

this stufff is sick they should take them all down im in shock

QQ 3 years ago

this is the bottom line theis sites are not porn it dosent matter what they have on their not nude and do you rellay think theis sites would be on the web if they were breaking laws no i dont think they would the people who say its so worng just cant grasp the fact that things are dirfrent then when they were kids is it so wired you see 8 to 9 year old kids with cell phones kids are becomeing more like adults everyday and whos to say theis girls dont like the modleing their doing they like whereing the makeup and being sexy you act like they pull a an abused kid from a cage beating and afraid and make them do it i dont think this is the case lol theis girls love to be looked at like an adult is some way like when you were a kid and mom or dad said no you thought i kno what im doing why do they treat me like a kid point theis sites are not porn their not against the law the kids will do what they want you cant chage it so foget about it and move on

QQ 3 years ago

also i looked around dose anywane read the disclamers on theis sites ill paste it in Legal Information All artistic work contained on this website abides by US and International Laws and does not contain lewd, obscene, or lascivious poses nor anything sexually explicit; therefore, USC Title 18-I, Ch. 110, §2257 does not apply. For applicable regulations, refer to §2256. All photography work has been done with authorization of and in the presence of a parent or appointed guardian and has been viewed and accepted by the models' parent/guardian before release. Release Forms have been signed by the model and parent/guardian and are on file in the agency office. All the contents of this website, images, graphics, design, and text, are protected, both individually and collectively, including selections and arrangement thereof, by copyright. ALL RIGHTS ARE RESERVED. This website reserves the right to, at any time, change or shut down the website without prior notice. You may download images for personal use only, but never in any way or under any circumstances reproduce, distribute, modify, republish in any medium, use the image for commercial purposes, or publish images on your own website without prior, written authorization from this website's owners. All other use is strictly prohibited. Any breach of these terms will be investigated and may result in a legal claim for damages! theis sites are not aginst the law

QQ 3 years ago

also i looked around dose anywane read the disclamers on theis sites ill paste it in Legal Information All artistic work contained on this website abides by US and International Laws and does not contain lewd, obscene, or lascivious poses nor anything sexually explicit; therefore, USC Title 18-I, Ch. 110, §2257 does not apply. For applicable regulations, refer to §2256. All photography work has been done with authorization of and in the presence of a parent or appointed guardian and has been viewed and accepted by the models' parent/guardian before release. Release Forms have been signed by the model and parent/guardian and are on file in the agency office. All the contents of this website, images, graphics, design, and text, are protected, both individually and collectively, including selections and arrangement thereof, by copyright. ALL RIGHTS ARE RESERVED. This website reserves the right to, at any time, change or shut down the website without prior notice. You may download images for personal use only, but never in any way or under any circumstances reproduce, distribute, modify, republish in any medium, use the image for commercial purposes, or publish images on your own website without prior, written authorization from this website's owners. All other use is strictly prohibited. Any breach of these terms will be investigated and may result in a legal claim for damages! theis sites are not aginst the law

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paul kenyon 3 years ago from Olean, New York Hub Author

QQ - and may I ask, in which hole do you bury your head prior to your thoughts escaping your lips?? Do you honestly believe by these sites citing a law and posting it on their pages it makes them LEGAL? I don't have the information on each teen and preteen site that offers these 'provocative' photos, but I can assure you, many offer pictures far worse than those seen on their cover pages. Case: LS Studios, and here's the Wikipedia link offering information on this Ukrainian based 'Child Porn' business.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Ukrainian_child_...

You also stated in general that these pictures are taken with the supervision of parents - yeah, and most are in on the money making schemes. Tell me, would you allow your daughter to pose in this fashion? If your answer is affirmative - I pray to God to don't HAVE a daughter!

Wayne 3 years ago

Preteen modelling sites are fantastic, some of those girls are soooo hot and must have pretty cool parents to alow them to do such wonderful modelling. good on them, they are probably making good money for doing nothing more than wearing hardly any clothes and looking hot :)

daniel 3 years ago

All is in your mind if you wanna think what you believe, that`s gonna be

marty 3 years ago

i dont see what all the fuss is about i have just looked at one of those teen sites all the girls have clothes onalso they are not doing anything sexuall i contacted one of the web sites and aske "are they getting paid " they told me 100% and they have the parents consent also.

i think ifits in your mind to look at a young girl or boy and get arroused well thats in your mind but if you look at a model and think ahh aint she or he pretty whats the problem also if your religious person it says in the bible "pure to mind is pure to heart" is you look at photos and think they are sexuall ,well then its in YOUR mind yes Yours and maybe YOU need to seek advice and stop thinking that everybody thinks with your mind!

i have a 16 yr old son and a 14 yr old daughter and they are sp pretty and wonderfull looking and have seen them nude a 1000 time and never thought even for a second i =they look sexuall only they look perfect and i thank god for that! live and let live

marty

Gedeon 3 years ago

I personally love those sites, so what if they are young? they are pretty and sexually attractive to me and a lot of people, stop makin such a big deal out of this I personally love to ejaculate on my 8 years old daughter's butt. its nature, why fight it? if no harm is done to those kids in anyways, then it should be fine, trust me I am totally against kid violence, or kid rape for that matter, but preteens posing in thongs or in underwear is harmless to them (assuming they know what they are doing and that they were not forced in anyways to do it)

anon 3 years ago

roger, you sir are sick and those sites... I wish I never clicked on them wow...

braddo 3 years ago

Sick mf you all should be shot, what are u selling .if you nerd to say the sights are 100% leagel that itself is guilt,

Fellie 3 years ago

I have seen some of these sites and I'm disgusted. I'm 14, I was a preteen model and I NEVER did any provocotive posses EVER. I wasn't even allowed to model swimwear until I was 13. I find these young girls being taken advantage of disgusting; I'm worried how their parents let them do it and if they even knew their parents knew this was happening. I'm still a teen model and I will never do any provocative poses until I'm 18 and I may still not want too. I think such sites should be shut down and owners prosecuted.

John  3 years ago

I'm with Fellie i find these teen sites nasty sick and they should be shut down. but yet are government lets them go why heck i don't no may never no ether. but it's a sick sick world we live in and these things are going to happen. but one day they will leave and i hope soon.

Катя 3 years ago

As a former LS model myself I can tell you that the Wikipedia article is flawed in many areas. All of us had our parents' permission. We were well paid, treated very well and it was great FUN. The best time of my life. There were about 1500 girls involved and none of us have ever complained. It was pressure from the US FBI that closed the agency. No-one was ever prosecuted. Ukrainian laws were not broken, and adverts for nude models had been placed in newspapers and on prime-time TV. We feel insulted that you think of us as child porn victims. None of us have been damaged at all! If you don't like our photos don't look at them, BUT PLEASE LEAVE US ALONE!

Chris 3 years ago

There is nothing wrong with modeling I find them attractive. Child pornography and photography has been around for a very long time from what I have researched. Its been around decades before I was born. Bottom line girls modeling is not wrong and I agree with roger US may be unaccustomed to over seas ways. If you look at history it shows girls that age were married and often had kids from there early teens to late. So I find nothing wrong with the consensual beauty of fully aware young girls so long as there's no forced rape and beating going on.

John John 3 years ago

I could not agree more with this article! I was searching the web earlier and came across the term 'pthc'. Not knowing what this meant I Google searched it and the results were sickening. There are literally thousands of photo's of young girls in extremely provocative positions. You can say these girls 'consented' to these photo's being taken but at their age that means nothing. They're too young to understand the full effect of these photo's and who may be accessing them and for what reasons. This is the definition of child exploitation and I for one would be completely behind a campaign to rid the world of this crap. You can report websites, however the information you give is not always confidential and I'm not trying to some how be misinterpreted and end up on the wrong side of the law.

I don't have a family yet but regardless these photo's make me sick and any one that looks at them and doesn't think its some kind of cheap way for freaks to get off is plain wrong. This shit makes my blood boil and it should be stopped!

Moose 3 years ago

I ran across one of these sites about four years ago. I reported it to the ascpa.org. They have shut down at least ten sites that I reported. My daughters are four five and six. These sites scare me to death to think that my exwufe might try and get my girls int modeling for the whole world to see on the net. Let alone the chance that some pervasive even try's to take a porn pic like this of my kids. I say kill all these pervs.

TheJudge 3 years ago

Some of the men who want to keep this kind of child exposure available are nasty, hateful and vicious while they defend their desire to have it. No, we are not the bad ones. We are not fascists who want to control life on the Internet. How about some protection for those too young to protect themselves? These little girls and young teens smile at all the money they make. They are patted on the head and told they did a good job. They probably do not know what they are doing. But their parents do. All for the love of money. Who are the bad ones?

toby 3 years ago

it all comes down to money

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paul kenyon 3 years ago from Olean, New York Hub Author

So many of these children may look as though they're posing and enjoying it, but remember, many of these sites are in other countries than the US. I believe the majority of them are underground sites too. Yes, it does come down to money, but I don't give a damn what some beliefs are on this topic; there should not be underage girls being offered as eye candy.

Todd 3 years ago

A friend of mine told me about these sites that he accidentally stumbled upon the other day. I found it hard to believe, but I checked and they do in fact exist. I know art should be protected as a freedom of expression, but I'm left wondering (after looking at a few of these pictures) if this is something that can be truly regarded as art. These girls are quite young, and the poses seem very suggestive. I'm not sure if it really qualifies, but I'm no art critic. It just seems quite creepy and strange to me that people are making money off of scantily clad preteen girls. Too many pervs out there.

ooo 3 years ago

i also think it is bad, as im 16 and have seen them, but is the offence to view the websites or to put the pictures on, is it illegal to go on these websites?

mike s 3 years ago

The author of this feels exactly like I do. It would be easy for google to censor this smut, and for the life of me I can't figure out why it wouldn't. Another sick issue is YouTube and the groups of pedophiles on there. They self police the site, but I've seen times I've flagged videos multiple times that were of scantily dressed preteen girls and they may not remove it at all. Makes me sick.

Mr dad 3 years ago

I guess these sights are getting bigger and bigger. I'm a daddy of 2 boy and a girl, there very young. I would not want them on these sights, would you?

I'm all for, to each his own, but come on there not just pics of girls posing in a dress, or hell looking cute. pictures that leave no room for the imagination kinda past art an into exposing little kids. Like 6 years old, it need to be stoped. If not stoped monitored better.

agreed 3 years ago

i agree with this article i have looked at numerous websites, and there all excactly the same i think its sickening, they do it all over the world, i just dont understand how its on the internet, i find this topic very interesting to research and have only heard off two websites been prosecuted for it. what i have wondered is has anyone ever been prosecuted for viewing these websites? if so would not everyone who has viewed them for research also be prosecuted. REPLY PLEASE

Terminator 3 years ago

WTF. Are you all crazy. Too many sick people out there. Get a life, and let kids be kids, Sick mother F****rs

Sean 3 years ago

Holy crap ive been looking for a model that's 18 or 19 that I saw over a year ago and since then ive been typing in names that i thought she went by. It seems she went by lia ot lilly or lana so every time i type those names in these preteen models keep showing up! i think it's totally wrong to look at girls under 17 and i can't believe it's legal! Since doing this and not being able to find this beautiful model ive givin up and i'm also scared somebody may think i'm a pedophile! I think the beauty of a full grown women is truely amazing and don't really understand how somebody could be attracted to a little child?

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paul kenyon 3 years ago from Olean, New York Hub Author

I've not responded to the posts in some time, but I must say, I've had to delete quite a few responses due to their extreme graphic language toward small children. It seems rather than these sites being taken down, or at the very least monitored, more are popping up.

One particular response was by Katr (reverse r) that I'd like to respond to. You say you were an LS model. I myself don't know if there was more than one site named 'LS MODELS,' but the one in particular I'm referring to was Ukrainian based and it WAS a porn site that offered provocative and erotic photos and videos of very young girls. I won't cite what was written in Wikipedia, but rather from what the transcripts of the Ukrainian police reports. If parents were in fact with their children when these photos and videos were taken, let's just say these aren't the type of parents I would want for any of my friends or relatives. Most of the sites that offer soft and hard child porn are out of the United States, but there are sites within the U.S. that offer it as well.

Another particular response I received that is still sitting above this post sickens me. Of course, I will not post what 'Walter' said, but I have made a note of his ip address. If frightens me to think of what this sort of person's demeanor might be when in the presence of preteens.

Once someone reaches the age of consent, they are free to do what they please, but when an adult manipulates a child in a sexually explicit pose, it's time to do something.

As for Google omitting these sites from their search engines, I don't know what to say to that. But if one types in 'preteen model,' generally you will see the following at the bottom of the page:

In response to a legal request submitted to Google, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read more about the request at ChillingEffects.org.

Obviously, sites are being omitted, but I don't believe they actually removed prior to an outside source complaint.

Keep your children safe from sexual predators. It's obvious --- A predator need not have physical contact with a minor.

TheJudge 2 years ago

Why is it that, when I type "stop preteen modeling sites" into my browser, I get only two sites against it and a lot of sites for preteen modeling? How effective is a fight against it? And how much do these sites encourage some men to go out and look for sexual activity with these young girls? Do any statistics exist for that? What kind of ammunition can we collect against the young teen and preteen sexual sites?

TheJudge 2 years ago

I looked up the two sites Paul mentioned (Liliana and Cutie) to see what was on them. In one pic, Liliana was leaning back on the bed and her legs were spread as wide as they could go, with her crotch in the center of the pic. The intent was very obvious--to give the idea of sexual intercourse. When I clicked on Cutie, as soon as I saw her face I felt yuck and clicked the back key. What is she, all of five years old? Who could be interested in these girls? As for QQ four months ago, he is lying through his teeth in order to defend his pruriant desire of little girls. Yes, QQ, it is child porn when the girls spread their legs. Things may be different today but sex is sex, and you can't have nine year old girls acting like prostitutes and say it is normal. Remember, QQ, they get paid for acting promiscuous, but in real life girls are not like this at all, unless they have been raised to be that way. So let me ask you. Is it really a good thing that our "progressive" society is so corrupt?

TheJudge 2 years ago

A note for QQ. Is it art when sexual desires are aroused? Is it art when obvious attention is given to genitals and breasts, even with scanty clothing on? Is it art when little girls act sexually mature beyond their years? Is it art when girls flirt and hint at taking off their clothes? Is it art when girls spread their legs wide? Ask Hugh Heffner and he will tell you that his multi-million dollar industry was not built on art but rather on lust and eroticism. What you want, QQ, is to enjoy these little girls in the same way normal men may lust on grown women. You are sick. Go get help.

Gabe 2 years ago

How the h*ll is this stuff not outlawed? This is bull. And the pics from the link the guy found is SO APPARENTLY childporn!

I don't get it.

I don't agree with the people who say it's just about beauty. If it was, then it would be nice pics like Paul talked about. There does not need to be pics of kind in their underwear in sexual poses.

And for the whole "Art" argument - well, I love art (big fan of Pop Art), but there are some levels of "art" that just don't need to be explored.

Frankly, if it hurts anyone else or puts them in jeopardy, it should be illegal. I bet, if anyone did a study of the psychological effects of being a child model in these pics, they would find damage being done.

It's horrible and I can't believe this crap is still online.

Nerv 2 years ago

I have been viewing some of Lilianna child model portfolio albums and while i do believe she is very cute/beautiful/pretty im not so sure i can view her anymore after what i saw in a few pictures. She had bruised legs and faces in some poses saying "i dont want to do this" I do NOT condone abuse and and from what i saw this deff looks like abuse. My blood boiled. Its one thing if they are poseing and modeling for one. Thats whatever they are happy not being forced into anything and all of free will. When you bring being forced into posing a certain way they may not feel comfortable (and it esp shows on there faces) and or sines of being beaten thats when it crosses the line. They ARE children i keep construed and keep my line of thoughts on models that willingly pose. I absoulty HATE hardcore child porn. I dont like girls under a certain age esp the really young ones ie:10 and under and i understand that when im out in the real world kids and young girls have no sexual nature (unless they are somewhat of a teenager) and that i actually absoulty do not lust after any little kids i see. I keep that for the models that choose to portray themselves in these sites and even then i never think of penitration unless i know they are physicly mature enough for it in the first place 14+ and who freaking cares really? Im not harming anyone. Im not going to go out and molest anyone and like someone else said what i think in my mind is irrelivant to wheather you like it or not its my buisness not yours.

Tom 2 years ago

This is not art, it is sick and it bothers me that there still hasn't been anything done against it. You can call it art but psychology will tell you that you are sick in the head from childhood trauma.

Shelly 2 years ago

Seriously? 14+? Don't you mean 18+? Being a boudoir photographer myself, I would never shoot anyone younger then the age of eighteen in a sexual nature. Nor would I even want to make it suggestive. Why can't you use models of lawful age with the curves and looks to portray the natural beauty of sexuality? It is one thing to shoot children for clothes or products, but quite another when you make it adult content. That is the sickness of the person I would think. These little kids do not have the mentality yet to figure out that many photographers are sick perverts with cameras. This comes from someone who used to model and now shoots nudes and implieds.

Dennis 2 years ago

this is comical as this is an old article now and as of yet,nothing has been done to curb no nude child modeling,ie preteens baring ass via wearing thongs and swim suit thongs thongs/.articles like this are great for getting people to jump on the bandwagon,but they're not too well thought out before being published.whatever solid plans there were to eliminate no nude preteen child modeling on the internet,fizzled out rapidly.the definition of porn is so flimsy that this type of modeling escapes the illegalities.wearing the thongs is a large part of that back door(no pun intended).that dental floss down the crack of the ass actually protects these photographers from being legally labeled as pornographers.strange strange strange!! this country(usa) and many others as well,encourage the action of children to get naked in front of adults.we live in country wherein now days children are often times the ones who encourage molestation by blatantly going the first step to have it induced and then it continues until the adult is caught.in redaing the paper and watching tv media news,i've caught on a long time ago that most of the time,a person who molests a preteen generally gets caught only because a friend of the victim says something. i truly believe that more times than not,the victim was a willing party even up to the time of being discovered/.this is how ill this country has gotten..not just this country i'm sure./what a horrible direction we're heading.

Monica 2 years ago

I'm online looking into modeling for my daughter, and all the sites I keep pulling up are these babies( little kids) where less than i would wear... These sites need to be reported along with the parents, because this is sad.

Worried Parent 2 years ago

I viewed these sites and do not know how they are legal. Is there no way to report them? Have they found a way to legal show little kids half dressed?

Grandpa 2 years ago

You can report it on cybertipline.com. There is also an FBI tip line. I've research this, and found out that the pervs are using the, "pornography is only in the mind of the beholder." defense. I'm tired of this garbage being put on line. Just report it, and let a jury decide. We know smut when we see it.

Craig 2 years ago

I also agree with this I also think that the people who are a bit sick e.g pedo's and child molesters are being sent to prison for what they do and you have images like the preteen sites leading them on. I mean if a pedo see's these photos of young girls poses in thongs with next to nothing on they will be wanting it and i think it pretty sick that this is allowed and any parent who doesn't care about their child being exposed in this manner should be prosecuted because it is unacceptable and if they think its good to have their daughter do this to earn money what are they going to do when they get older, stripping ? prostitution ? I think that this preteen stuff needs to be stopped now.

mike s 2 years ago

I encourage everyone to turn these sites into ASACP when encountered. I have many times, and a lot of times they will be removed.

Anon. 2 years ago

It's interesting that the thread above by ???? seems to be ignored by those making comments, except for the author of the blog who merely seems to express incredulity that she could have actually have a had a positive experience modelling for LS. Quote "We were well paid, treated very well and it was great FUN. The best time of my life. There were about 1500 girls involved and none of us have ever complained." A friend of mine is researching this issue for a book, the former models they have spoken to have also had good things to say about their "underage" modelling experiences.

Former "Sandi Model" from Webe Web models in the U.S. has videos on YouTube under the "Former Webe Web Models Speak Out Campaign" claiming that they were victims only of the government for shutting them down and throwing photographers in jail - not victims of the photogs or people who subscribed to their modelling sites. Many beautiful girls of all ages enjoy showing off their beauty, and getting well paid for it is a bonus.

I for one would also prefer that those who find young girls sexually exciting fantasize in front of their computer screens as opposed to seeking to satisfy their desires elsewhere. The time and money spent on closing down these sites (where the models are happy, willing participants and well compensated) could be better spent on issues like poverty, homelessness, and child prostitution (and modelling for internet sites is nothing close to being prostituted!).

In closing I would just like to say to ???? - Good for you for speaking out and refusing to let people force "victimhood" on you! More power to you!

Anon. 2 years ago

Apparently the copy paste didn't work in my post immediately above. What is shown as ???? should say KATR, or Katya.

Jed Jones 2 years ago

Anon is right. Those crusaders who appoint themselves to speak on behalf of child web models might at least afford them the minimum courtesy of listening to what they have to say for themselves, when they have reached the age of adult citizenship and look back on their career.

Little girls have always sought to emulate their mothers and older sisters, who set the example for them to follow, regaling the malls in their bumster jeggings. We live in an age where parents post videos on YouTube of their 3-year-old in diapers trying to dance like Beyonce while they watch MTV.

It's easy and cheap to kick the little guy - you can ban child web modelling and working-class enterpreneurs all you like, but there will still be MTV, The Sport, and Page Three of The Sun. And Rupert Murdoch. I've got more respect for ultra conservatives who want to ban all porn in its entirety. At least they're consistent.

You can't insulate children in a context of 24/7 in-yer-face media. They don't live on a different planet, they inhabit this one with the rest of us. And they are not generally deaf, blind and stupid.

Get over yourselves already, and get a perspective. Life is nasty, brutish and short for most of the world's population who live on less than $2 a day. Therefore, sexual pleasure should be EVERYBODY'S right. We are ALL sexual creatures - that's why we're all here to debate the point! Even a baby can achieve an orgasm. Why begrudge pleasure to another? Harm, and not sex, is the only viable, and logical, moral criterion.

doveweed 2 years ago

Hello, I'm confused.. as far as I can tell you think that modeling sites should be taken down because they

1. make people sick.

2. the modeling agency website models have sexually suggestive poses.

You will need much better reasons then these to persuade anyone. America is about freedom and all modeling agencies had sexually suggestive poses sometimes. There will always be someone who finds someone elses activities disgusting. In a free society we must tolerate other people's taste to get the same in return else we'll all be wearing black robes over ourselves with slits cut for eyes.

please rethink your motives and try not to be biased, dishonest or bigitous.

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paul kenyon 2 years ago from Olean, New York Hub Author

To Doveweed: It seems you're not aware of the topic of this hub. We're discussing preteen models. Are you suggesting, regardless of others' beliefs it is perfectly okay for preteen to be placed in sexually suggestive poses? I need not rethink my motives, nor my beliefs.

an Amercian 2 years ago

i do think if the kids are clothed, then it should be allowed. no nudity = legal. the fbi is run by the religious right. if you do not like what you see, change to another website. plain and simple.

sb12 2 years ago

and the parents of the children in the pictures r messed up why would you even put ur daughter on the internet knowing that some creepy old guy is gnna be rubbing one off to a picture of ur daughter thats messed up idc how much u r getting paid ur sick and to put ur child in that position just for doing that alone you should go to hell

John Michael 2 years ago

Marcus, there's an old adage "the thing you hate the most is what you are"

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edodeweert 2 years ago

posing naked for art is sexual; rendering the naked human form is sexual; drawing naked breasts and buttocks is like touching them vicariously.

showing bald pussies in this context is sexual (and hoped for in these sessions)

children should not be engaged in this activity and within this environment.

(off topic, somewhat: i find child beauty pageants equally disgusting and a form of child abuse)

i have, however, been at sessions where some of the artists were by their own admission, not yet 18, yet they were there drawing a naked male (me).

the brilliant austrian artist egon schiele used as his favorite subjects underaged females and portrayed them in very sexual poses.

he would have been a pornographer extraorninaire, had he lived in this day and age; he died in 1919.

ever since men build caves has the naked female been their object of desire and for some that included the "not-yet-of-age" female.

there is one thing, though, that must not be forgotten and that is that we do not become sexual beings when the clock strikes midnight on our 18th birthday.

in my quest for experiences from other men who pose naked at art schools, i have come across dozens of sites where males have found it necessary to regale the world with anecdotes of how they got one erection after another during those sessions.

i guess that's why old guys like me are so much in demand; though do not forget that with the help of our blue friend we too can proudly strut our boner.

but i have always found that i should leave something to the imagination.

and as well, i do have something that seems to have caught the art students' attention: nipples...yes, nipples and mine are large and very obvious...and large

check out the blog at www.themodelundraped.blogspot.com

ted 2 years ago

There seems to be a lot of one dimensional anti/pro modeling talk as is understandable. but less focus has been given to what is or is not illegal. Where is the line drawn? What makes some modeling agencies worse than others? I have a couple of specific questions that no amount of internet research has been able to clarify.

1. Does see-through clothing render the images illegal? because there seems to be a lot of going around.

2. What exactly is the law when considering whether these sites cross the line into pornography?

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edodeweert 2 years ago

hey ted,

good questions; i am not a legal expert, but i do know that there are as many ways people get turned on sexually, as there are people on this planet.

and the sight of a pre-teen with barely visible budding breasts under a see-through garment i am sure will drive some guys crazy.

is the nakedness in and of itself sexual?

and would that constitute kiddie porn?

is there a porn line to be drawn even within the pre-teen segment?

some violent kiddi-porn confiscated shows purportedly toddlers as young as two being sexually manipulated.

if this is so, what about all those paintings of naked little cherubs?

could they not set off a guy whose proclivity is little boys?

and those pre-teen beauty pageants i talked about in my earlier post, who are they for exactly?

just last week i saw a program on tv in which little girls as young as four were doing suggestive poses on stage for.......adult "judges"

personally, i think there should be an investigation into that industry.

Andrew 2 years ago

there is no way in hell these websites are legal....this is disgusting

edo deweert 2 years ago

to andrew and the judge and anyone else:

those who know they are treading on thin ice will do whatever it takes to find ways to circumvent the law.

they will hide behind "beauty pageants", behind "cute childhood photographs of toddlers innocently exploring their own genitals" (and, truth be told, who has not???)

of course some of this stuff is put on the net for the sheer purpose to titilate ; some of this stuff is so borderline, but the guy who is into little girls can find quite a bit of satisfaction looking at these "cute innocent little ones while masturbating to their hearts' content.

flagflagger1 2 years ago

If modeling sites aren't bad enough, just go to youtube and search. It won't take long to find questionable mmaterial, and you turn it in and they do nothing about it. It's like moral decay right in front of us. I encourage everyone to get involved against YouTube, Google, mtv, bet and every other media company profiting at the safety of our kids.

anonymouss 2 years ago

actually according to one article found in time magazine " the american dream is dead" it found that by legalizing child pornography in one country reduced sex crimes... why?

Casey 2 years ago

These site will he shut down one day. You people saying it's ok should be smacked around. Kids kids this young aren't meant for this sh!t. They're meant to have fun and be a kid not to be used by sick ass people like you. Don't worry it's only a matter of time. I'm gonna report these stupid sites and they will be shut down.

wayne 2 years ago

How can we who cares about this type of people useing childern to make money.Maybe stronger laws in this USA

may help,but what about other countries that it looks

like they support this.I`m 70 and have two chidern who

are both married and have their own childern.If some one

had bothered my childern,I may have hunted them down and

done something very bad to them.I wish to know if people

like me can help stop this.I think our Gov. should lock

them up and throw the keys away.Wayne

anonymous 2 years ago

I read this article and commented 16 months ago apparently, and in checking back now I see that people are still unintelligent and narrow minded. I mean seriously- if you're all so deeply offended by these kinds of things, WHY ARE YOU LOOKING AT THEM?! Are you on a crusade or just looking for a different kind of cheap thrill. It's okay to look at little half-naked girls if you report them as sick, right? And it's not just preteen modeling sites - no, you guys troll You Tube for "disgusting" videos just so you can flag them. Well, thank you all for doing your part to clean up society. It's a dirty job, and I'm sure you must hate it. Give me a break. You're just as perverse as the rest of us. And THAT'S OKAY!! We're all free to do as we please, so long as we don't impose our will on others or force others to do things against their will.

So these kids don't understand the full implications of what they're doing... so, then they still have their innocence, then! Kids LIKE being naked, at least until the overbearing adults tell them it's wrong. Ever been to a nudist resort? Kids are naked all over the place, and there's not a boner in sight. Why? Because it's our natural way. Religious folks: If God wanted us to be naked, we'd have been born that way! So is God a pervert, too?

I love the guy who commented that "we're not sexual beings until midnight on our 18th birthday." I'm hoping he was kidding, because that's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Someone else mentioned that babies can orgasm. Boys in junior high school masturbate like crazy, and girls as young as ten - and sometimes younger - have had their first period. What the heck changes from 11:59 of age 17 and 12:00 age 18? NOTHING! For that matter, what is PHYSICALLY different between a 15 year old and 19 year old? NOTHING! Sure, they're more "mature" and experienced at life, but there are plenty of 14 and 15 year olds capable of making a responsible decision about their sexuality. They may in fact be more prepared than some 20 year olds. Age is a number. It's ridiculous to think everyone is the same. Individuality is what makes humans so awesome.

There are plenty of teenagers having sexual relationships, and there have been since time began. It's a primal motivation, and there's nothing that can or SHOULD be done to curtail it. Better education is helpful, but kids - mostly teenagers - are going to have sexual experiences. It's easy to say that 5 and 6 year olds shouldn't be portrayed in provocative poses, but I maintain that dudes sitting in front of the computer looking at girls that were having fun - as Katya said - are NOT criminals. They are being responsible to keep their socially unacceptable but perfectly normal desires to themselves. We are all free to think as we choose. Again, so long as we don't impose our will on others.

I read an article in a police magazine last year about child porn, and the author - a police office SWORN to uphold the united States' Constitution - wrote in all seriousness that law enforcement should be allowed to CURTAIL the Bill of Rights to catch child pornographers. THAT to me is a far more heinous crime than the photogs that shoot kids with their consent. As I said in my first post, and I think I've made clear here, I don't condone any kind of abuse, and only stand behind the photographers that shoot models of all ages without abuse and with respect. And that someone else suggested that Google should CENSOR certain words and prevent linking to these "questionable" sites - GO LIVE IN CHINA! Free speech means FREE SPEECH. It's the right to offend. The right to say "I like teenage girls" and the RIGHT to be left alone. If ONE of us is prevented from speaking our mind, NONE of us have free speech. That's what makes it free! It's not "free to agree with what's considered normal" speech. And it IS an appropriate defense. Someone else said it's something to hide behind. No, it's the TRUTH. You are ALL entitled to your opinions that these modeling sites are disgusting. If that is your belief, DON'T LOOK AT THEM. Leave them be. There are plenty of types of pornography I find disgusting, and if I want to look at porn, I avoid things I don't like. I don't try to make laws against people not being depicted regurgitating, for example. I don't report sites that feature that sort of thing as illegal or immoral. I just don't look at them! If you fight something, you're still caught up in it. Remember that. If you stay away from it, you're free.

I will defend each of your rights to have your opinions, even if they disagree with my own. THAT is what makes a free society great. As each of you work to turn America into the former Soviet Union, you'll usher in a society like the Ukraine's that allows child pornography, so get on that will you! Stop policeing your neighbors and start taking back the FREEDOM stolen by the government you think is protecting you. Have your opinions, but DO NOT impose them on others. Share them, fine. DON'T FORCE CONFORMITY!

Sorry this is so long, but I love my freedom to share my opinion, and I hope someone will learn something in all my soapbox babbling! Peace, health and happiness to all!

hh 2 years ago

i went to some of those so called model/art sites that have young girls barely clothed. Showing a ten year old spreading her legs and showing her underwear isn't child art. A kid drawing a picture in crayon of their family dog is art, the stuff these guys are showing is just lewd and shouldn't be legal, but that's just my opinion.

edo deweert 2 years ago

to anon:

yes, your diatribe was too long; typical of those who like to hear themselves and do not listen to what others have to say.

in my post i said that we do NOT turn into sexual beings when the clock strikes midnight on our 18th birthday.

in other words (and i thought this site was visited by somne intelligent beings so i did not feel a need to elaborate on this) it is precisely my point that we are sexual beings well before our 18th birthday; so this whole 18+ is a very arbitrary line (it used to be 21; so let me wonder about why we "suddenly have become more sexually mature" in those three years)

next fricken time read...read...read what others have to say....you spent an awful lot of energy and space on "setting me straight", you sanctimonious jerk

yuh 2 years ago

These sites should not be illegal, yes the girls are clothed or somewhat clothed but if you click on a gallery or a picture it could take you somewhere where they are not clothed and the girls are all not probably 18 years old and if they are 18 they sure look damn young in which the site should at least be investigated it's not like theses sites are hard to find.

Freedom fighter 2 years ago

This isn't right, yes there are other cultures and you cannot descide what's most "healthy" for

Someone. Regardless the vast difference between payed to jump off a bridge and have a picture taken is an extreme leap. Even so if someone wanted to leap off a bridge for money I don't advise it but I'm not going to take away their choice of doing it. Notice the part of my sentence: THEIR CHOICE

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thisistheend 2 years ago

These sites are never going to be pulled off the web. There is to much money to be made from promoting this sort of so called art photography. It is art to some but to others it is immoral. It is astonishing how many people are looking at this material on a daily basis. I have researched this on websites such as quantcast, webinformer, alexa, robotex, and many other data collection sites. The demographics are usually caucasian adult males viewing this content. Nudists sites also seem to fit into this psuedo porn grey area that exists on the web. I do feel that this stuff should be legal in order to protect our civil rights within the U.S. We cannot outlaw clothed pictures of children in non sexual situations because this would take away certain rights most people enjoy daily. Where would the censorship stop. I admit these sites are intended to catch a certain deviant demographic but these same people would get the same pleasure from looking at a JCpenney catalog. You cannot outlaw something because a few people look at it in a different way. For these reasons these sites will never be illegal and will continue to flood the internet in years to come. The feds in the U.S. do not seem to concerned with this content for the time being and no one to my knowledge has been charged with a crime for looking at preteen modeling sites or nudist sites. If someone knows otherwise please let me know. I believe this debate has been going on since the turn of the century and nothing has changed on the net. Everyone of the websites that posts this content is located over seas but some have owners within the U.S. The government is powerless to do anything in order to stop this because these sites are actually legal based on current U.S. laws and these laws cannot change due to violating the First Amendment of the constitution. They can be deemed obscene if they fail the Miller test for lacking serious artistic value. This test can be interpreted in so many ways it does not work as a standard and should be changed. Critics of obscenity law argue that defining what is obscene is paradoxical, arbitrary, and subjective. They state that lack of definition of obscenity in the statutes, coupled with the existence of hypothetical entities and standards as ultimate arbiters within the Miller Test (hypothetical "reasonable persons" and "contemporary community standards") proves that federal obscenity laws are in fact not defined, do not satisfy the vagueness doctrine, and thus are unenforceable and legally dubious. The fine line that these sites exist on cannot be changed due to the constitution. I am not in any way promoting this type of content but I am promoting freedom of speech for everyone not just some.

Whatever 2 years ago

Blame it on the parents not the pervs I say. The pervs can't be pervs if the parents don't let their kids pose in these pics. Right? You will never get rid of the lions until you get rid of the meat.

The Punisher 2 years ago

It's nothing but a bullshit game of entrapment . They know where these scum are that make the photos and movies . But harass people accidentaly getting popups .from hacker scum . Exsterminate the traffickers instead oftaking political pay offs . Then you eliminate the problem .

lll 2 years ago

These little girls are not underwear models real underwear models don't spread their legs wide or stick their asses up in the air. These sites should be illegal, i can't believe the parents let their daughters pose like that.

Thisistheend 2 years ago

RE EZLO, pretty graphic for someone who does not enjoy this type of legal material. You people should just give it a rest already. Quit trying to demonize everything in our society and turn different forms of art into illegal content. I am no child molester, and how dare you make the accusation that I could be. Looking at a few legal pictures you come across on the web does not make you a child molester. Its people like you that will throw people to the slaughter even when their is no actual proof that someone did commit a crime. Looking at pictures = life in prison WTF! Can't you people see that the government is slowly taking our freedoms away. They are just testing us with something so vile that no one will question the severity of the punishment. Just looking at pictures should never equal years to life in prison, ridiculous. Making said material or profiting from it is another story. Just recently a bill passed to allow the federal government to detain U.S. citizens indefinitely. They are testing us and waiting to see how subservient we actually are before they drop the hammer on us. Get real and stop watching FOX news like its your fucking religion. This filth is never gonna be illegal, Hell it is even on mainstream T.V. now. Worry about things like, will I be eating from a trashy ditch next year when the economy collapses. Or will I have to defend myself from my own government when they try to take what little freedom I have left. Don't worry about some perverted shit on the internet that is only their because our government actually wants it there, politicians need fapping material too.

Scott 2 years ago

Legitimate modeling agencies such as Ford, Elite etc. also feature more than their share of pictures of 15-17 girls wearing thongs, unbuttoned shirts, sometimes no shirts, etc. Famke Janssen posed topless for a national magazine at the age of 14 with only her arms covering the ta-tas, & this was in the 80s! Melanie Griffith was nude in a movie at 14 in a scene with a middle-aged actor! And this was in the '70s! True Teen Babes & other such sites are no more or less provocative than the big-name agencies that hire teenage girls to model in the same way that their adults do. So instead of accusing everybody who subscribes to such sites of being a child molester, open up a copy of Seventeen magazine sometime! You will see girls the same age in the same stages of undress. I personally don't join these sites, mainly because I don't want to be ripped off or have my computer hacked with spyware, but the content itself is not what I have a problem with. I will proudly watch my VHS copies of Blue Lagoon I & II, and Paradise. Get a life, and remember Jesus' sermon the mount!

A Realist 2 years ago

While living many years in Germany, the first thing I noticed is that many people are not hung up on viewing the nude human body. On national TV, women are shown washing their hair from the waist up, not the shoulder up like American TV. Many children at the swimming pool don't even wear a swimsuit unit they are at least 6, many not even until they are 9 or 10 or even older. And females frequently take off their tops to sun bathe.

The only thing I find wrong with any of this is the fact that many of these sites with thongs and other tight fitting underwear actually make the children look sexier than if they were completely naked. A nude child is not sexy. A child in tight underwear posed the right way can be sick to look at!

MattB 2 years ago

Just looked at a few of these sites, and think they are just plain weird. So un-natural. Young girls in PVC just isnt right. Wouldnt go so far as to say they are sick, I just think its wrong. I have reported one site and will report on a day, as I beleive tey all break UK law.

kyle 2 years ago

this sickens me. it horrible how easily those ppl get away with it.

mike s 2 years ago

TThese sites have to be shut down.

Jim 23 months ago

Ya know, you're funny. Say did you ever read the Bible? It is in that book you can read how little girls were sold to keep families financially able to survive. Even with the beginning of the U.S.of A. ;Prostitution was a legal profession and the average age was eleven years old. It has only been in the past 90 years that we have had a legal age put into focus and we have made this once great world subserviant to women. If you don't like what parents are doing to their children for their money needs then maybe you want have a socialist government that gives us a better reality. Otherwise you can complain all you want and it won't do any good.

Kenneth 23 months ago

If the men who view these sites are sick then the young girls who pose in them are sick as well. Why? Because they know exactly what they're doing. Sexual interest and curiosity does not begin at puberty. It begins at a much younger age. As an "older man" I find the girls (most of them anyway) to be incredibly sexy and beautiful and a pure joy to look at. If this makes me "sick" then I guess I'll just have to be sick. It's a 'sickness" I can most definitely live with.

Dude 23 months ago

So your telling me these sites arent illegal in the united states?

Anyone?

And if they are they need to be shut down!

no comment 21 months ago

WTF????????????????,,,, This is really what yu want to do with your time?????????

young american 21 months ago

Can someone please tell me if these preteen model sites are actually illegal. It is pointless to argue back and forth about this subject any longer. They appear to all be legal, seeing how there are hundreds of thousands of them on google and other search engines. I dont think that they can even make these illegal in the U.S. due to the constitution and peoples rights. This is what the mainstream pop culture in america is all about anyway, sex. Do you not think that little girls don't see that Nicky Minaj shaking here ass like a whore on tv and don't want to emulate her. This is just a symptom of the times we live in. Girls are maturing faster than ever, scientists say it is because of the food they are eating. I don't think so. It is because they are being brainwashed into showing off their young bodies to get attention. Our society teaches them that their only worth something if they are seen as physically attractive to older males. Parents have to teach them that this is wrong, not the goverment or google. I predict that this is never going to be banned in the U.S., in fact I would not be surprised if in a few years this type of shit will be on cable tv and based in the USA . It already kind of is on that one toddlers and tiaras show. Little girls dress so provocatively in public nowadays sometimes it is hard to know how old they are. They only do this for approval that they are not getting at home. In the end it all comes down to greed and human beings are corrupted by the chance for power and dominance. We are moving slowly back to the days of old when the blade ruled the world and not compassion for humanity. In this world women were only seen as sex objects as they are in much of todays so called modern society. We are no different than the barbarians of the old world, we just have ipods.

PRACTICAL REALISM 20 months ago

HOW DO YOU THINK BROOKE SHIELDS CLIMBED TO HER SUCESS? SHE POSED IN PROVOCATIVE POSESIN PENTHOUSE MAGAZINE AT THE AGE OF 9 AND ALSO MADE A VERY SUCESSFUL MOTION PICTURE AT THE AGE OF 12 WHER SHE PLAYED THE PART OF A CHILD PROSTITUTE AND WAS POSED FULLY NUDE. THE NAME OF THE MOTION PICTURE WAS CALLED PRETTY BABY.; AND WHAT ABOUT JODIE FOSTER ANOTHER SUCCESSFUL ACTRESS , WHO PLAYED THE PART OF A 12YEAR OLD STREET WALKER THAT ROBERT DE NIRO WAS FIXATED ON, IN THE MOTIN PICTURE TAXI. THESE ARE TWO EXAMPLES OF HOW SEXUALLY PROVOCATIVE YOUNG GIRLS CAN ATTAIN A SUCESSFUL FUTURE. FOOD FOR THOUGHT .

jack690 20 months ago

Any parent that would let children pose like this needs to be reported and kids taken away.I found site by accident.it is horrible.I keep trying to find one that steps over line so I can report and get them off line.They all step over line in my book.What is even sicker is they must be a demand for this or they would not keep making theses.sick,Sick,world we live in.

Bran the man 19 months ago

some of your guys post make me sick talking about oh i bet the pre teen and child get payed well ffs if they do I bet all the money goes to the abusers legal guardian..I think this is a sad world we live in with many sick ppl.I dont see how any man or woman would get turned on by lil kids or pre teens.I bet many of the ppl were abused them selfs and this is there sick way of paying them back.No lil kid should have their childhood taken from them having sex with there father uncle priest who ever it may be.I think every1 with a sex crime should be castrated.And them put in prison with all huge black men with 1 foot cocks as they get raped day by day till they die.Pervs burn in hell

mike 18 months ago

as a parent I feel if the authorities cant or wont do anything about those sites then we should, and boy would I go to town on them and you are right it is just filthy porn

Shon 17 months ago

what!?!?!?!?!

Shon! 17 months ago

Here is some super honesty. I have no kids so I don't have that parent view on the closeness and wanting to care or protect a kid as they would. I am a man of thirty years. I went to these sites and found myself a little aroused by what I saw. This disgusted me. I am a man engaged and I love woman WOMAN! I have to say this kind of crap is what causes our world to become perverted. At first I was confused as to why it aroused me, but then I realized look at what they are wearing. Butt cheeks hanging out, smooth thighs, things I am use to seeing on woman. I do not want to see it on a girl or even a boy which I came across. His butt CHEEKS WERE HANGING OUT OF HIS SHORTS! WHY!!!!!!!!!!! So I agree this kind of modeling is dangerous and yes it needs to be stopped. Just being honest and to all you parents hold your babies protect your babies boy or girl and let them know they don't need to show so much skin in order to be seen as beautiful! A true model scout will know right away if that child is marketable without seeing any skin! Peace!

anonsmoker 16 months ago

Just did a few bing image searches for non nude modeling. Now I am afraid I may be sent to prison, thanks. How does bing allow topless photos of children in their image search results. Can you get arrested just for searching the topic in bing images and all this stuff pops up? I did not click on any of the links but bing has infected my laptop with this filth. Would a simple image search be illegal? I would assume topless or nudity of anykind would not be legal in the U.S.

TiredOne 15 months ago

Whooooooeeeew!

Fat Robert 15 months ago

There's a few new legal developments that need to be mentioned here. Did you know that the Supreme Court has declared that child models no longer have to be even "semi" nude for their photos to be considered Child Pornography!? The kids can be "fully clothed" and if the court decides that the images are "suggestive" in any way, your === is legal HASH!!! No "nudity" required!! Do you know what THAT means!!??? It means that 1. All those "non-nude" child modeling websites go WAAAAY off into illegal territory!! And.2, it means that those so-called 100% "LEGAL" websites are probably now being run by the COPS and the FEDS!! And when they tell you that those websites are 100% "LEGAL", they're 100% "LYING!!" Man, if you've ever visited any one of those so-called "LEGAL" child modeling sites, it's probably just a matter of "time" before they get to YOUR I.S.P address (now located on their servers ) and "BAM!" The authorities will be bustin' down your door!!! It's probably too late to stop that now. If you have NEVER visited any of those so-called non-nude child modeling sites, take a nickel's worth of free advice, and STAY FAR FAR AWAY!! Those websites are devastatingly EASY to visit! And ALL sex-offenses are 200% "ZERO LIABILITY" crimes!! Hey hey hey, you try to view kids in the nude ( or "NON" nude ) and believe me, you'll PAY PAY and PAY!! That's all I gots to say!

david garcia 15 months ago

What's all the fuss over these child model sites? Go to any public pool or beach and you see young girls laying on their stomachs with their legs spread open or doing cartwheels. So? You don't see the Feds arresting the parents do you? There's pics of gymnasts and contortionist everywhere and their poses are way more provocative then the child models. I've seen a contortionist do her thing at a mall once and she puts her legs over her head, her chest flat on the floor, exposing her privates for all to see. And that's not the only provocative pose she did. She was about 8 or 9. I don't see the Feds arresting anyone at those events. I don't see any difference in the poses of child models and gymnasts or contortionists. Why no uproar over contortionists? the writer of this article finds child model pictures sickening but not gymnast poses or contortionists? Come on let's get real here. It's called hypocrisy folks.

Some Guy 15 months ago

Most of these sites are based out of countries such as Russia and Amsterdam where, like it or not, it is completely legal. And they are actually allowed by law wheras they are on the internet. The laws pertaining to the internet are few and thinly strung so to speak. Being a global media, no one country or government has the right to enforce what may or may not be put on it, unless those posting are in that country. For instance, if someone in the US put up nude pictures of a child, they can be arrested, the pictures removed, etc. But, if someone in Russia puts up a site with similar pics, but it is legal there, then there is nothing any other government can do to remove it from the internet.

You have to keep in mind that there are different cultures from ours that may view these sites as ok or normal. Where men take wives we would still consider children (10, 11, 12 years old). We may find it deplorable, but that is how we have been brought up in our culture. I actually have a friend (now 28), from Amsterdam who doesn't understand the fuss. To the culture she was raised in, its ok and normal. (Shrug) personally, it isn't something I care for. But I understand that its not the place of the US to start imposing its own will upon other nations due to our differing views. The best way I can look at it is that if you find it distasteful, do as I do and simply avoid it.

Philthy Phil 10 months ago

Kids should feel sexually comfortable and flaunt their beautiful bodies, booties and skin, all the time! I say: "Use it, and enjoy it while it lasts".

Once they grow up, no sane person (sane = not in love, personally insecure or motherhood obsessed) would want to see them naked. This is the very reason why humans decided to wear clothes in the first place - because the ADULT physique is a sad atrocity, nothing more.

Don't deprive the children of their ONLY lifetime chance to feel wanted and desired, simply because you find it tasteless - what kind of a heartless creature are you?

I didn't have the opportunity to prove that I was sexy, I don't feel sexy and since I am an adult, the closest I might get to that recognition, is to manipulate and convince some half-wit (s)he loves me, and then use those emotions of loneliness and longing to take advantage of and "trick" them into having sex with me, which they would not ever naturally do, of their own volition. I can NEVER be truly sexy (as in, only the flesh/genitals alone!) ever again. And I will envy and covet that forever. In rage.

shaolin_drifter 10 months ago

The poses they put these little girls in ARE sexually suggestive and there is no one who can say a word of argument otherwise. Under the age of say 12 I think their non nude posed in sexual positions is absolutely disturbing and sick no matter what country it is. After 12 is still SO questionable and depending on the position and clothes and level of sexuality, still on the sick side. But fact is that even kids as young as 2 get aroused and rub themselves. That is NOT an argument that it is ok for grown adults or even other kids to be getting off on them. But MAYBE a reverse age barrier law makes some sense for these kind of things. Kids are beginning to be sexually active around the age of 12, kissing or whatever they feel is in their scope that they can get away with. So maybe having young girls 'non nude' out there no younger than 12 for sure, but maybe not younger than 16 for kids in their age range, but block these sites from people more than an acceptable age range away. Does that make any sense? Sexual development is important. I think hiding it from your kids can only make them grow up to be one of the many sick fucks out there. I don't see a problem with a 14 year old wanting to rub off to 12 year olds , but I do see a huge problem with a 16+ year old wanting to for sure. I don't see anything wrong with a 25- wanting to have sex with a 16+, but I do think its too much of a stretch after 25 and even that may be a push. The point is that expressing ones sexual desire is important to our psychology, and for kids 12 - 17 most parents definitely would rather their kid get off to pictures or videos than with another kid. And there is another issue to consider. Maybe an even harder one. When I looked into these sites I found naturist sites with girls of all ages completely nude but not in any even lightly sexual way, and I found no offensiveness in this at all. Where all these non nude sites were consistently posing girls that could have been as young as 2 sexually. Still despite being non sexual I am still inclined to say that I believe it is NOT ok to EVER take a picture of a child nude, especially at an age of pre sexual awareness. Just because its not sexual of nature doesn't mean some sick fuck isn't out there fucking his fist over it(or hers it may seem in the US). This is a rough subject, because you don't want to draw a line to low, but you have to remember being a kid too. I know I used to masturbate and get SO horny over being naked when I was only 5. I would dream of seeing the girls I went to school with naked and fantasize over having various sexual contacts with them even though I didn't fully know what I was fantasizing about. I had my first sexual contact with a girl when I was 6, we would rub each other. I caught my brothers daughter fucking her car seat buckle when she was 2. So healthy sexual expression is definitely a part of life even for kids.

hurtbyporn 7 months ago

The people that steal the innocence from these children, the one's that Make them dress up and pose like they do should be hung !!!!,

these children dont know what there doing and some fat guy is getting rich on abusing them!!!!! The goverment should get Involved and track the Bastards down. as a mother of three and grandmother of six I'm sickend to my stomach, the whole world has gone crazy and someone needs to take a stance to stop this and also catch the people that look at these sites If no one was looking for them they wouldnt be there !!! cos the slime bags that put them there would find other ways of making money

Canadian proud 6 months ago

wow guys seriously I saw a few of these sites tonight and I'm appalled! I cant believe. I'm from canada and Im pretty sure we do NOT allow things like this to happen... and let me tell you we would put a stop to it ASAP! this is shocking that we even have to try and convince each other that this type of this should be allowed! wow... the world we live in.

larry 4 months ago

Americas leaders should be sued and thrown in prison for not putting a stop to this. It is there duty to put a stop to this and if they say they try than they lie. There are hundreds if not thousands of these sites out there and its not hard to find them. Clearly they arnt doing anything to stop this. I wonder what our government would do if poeple start posting drugs for sale on the internet, I promise you they would put a stop to it asap, so I guess pics of young children in g-strings with there legs spread is ok. Proud to be an american...not so sure

as far as pictures of innocent children spreading there legs wearing nothing but a tiny g-string

TitsOut 4 months ago

Our young cows get the dick, so it's perfectly natural to look at daughters, would love to fix up some Ukrainian preteens ;)

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